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On 3/21/2025 5:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 3/21/2025 5:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:43:13 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:11:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle 
>>>> <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its 
>>>>>>>>>>>> world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply 
>>>>>>>>>> "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts 
>>>>>>>>>> is far, far more
>>>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on 
>>>>>>>>>> the relative
>>>>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long 
>>>>>>>>>> periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which 
>>>>>>>>>> data set is more
>>>>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more 
>>>>>>>>>> attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right 
>>>>>>>>>> wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" 
>>>>>>>>>> verifiable data went
>>>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to 
>>>>>>>>>> blatantly invent
>>>>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed 
>>>>>>>>>> to that, regarding
>>>>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, 
>>>>>>>>>> claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is 
>>>>>>>>>> "finding" billions and
>>>>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly 
>>>>>>>>>> disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: 
>>>>>>>>>> "Here's _one_
>>>>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense 
>>>>>>>>>> worldwide shrinking of
>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, 
>>>>>>>>>> so we should ignore
>>>>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans 
>>>>>>>>>> rising."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that 
>>>>>>>>> his staff can't keep
>>>>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had 
>>>>>>>>> women pee on him. That
>>>>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave 
>>>>>>>>> Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border 
>>>>>>>>> without Congressional
>>>>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both 
>>>>>>>>> sides fund their pet
>>>>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out 
>>>>>>>>> what's in it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate 
>>>>>>> politics with science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr 
>>>>>>>> Biden could not
>>>>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on 
>>>>>>>> what actually
>>>>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently 
>>>>>>>> defying the direct
>>>>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another 
>>>>>>> way to do it".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' 
>>>>>> provision for
>>>>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at 
>>>>>> retail in cash were
>>>>>> miffed at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the 
>>>>> drinking age in
>>>>> Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 
>>>>> 21.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to 
>>>>> live with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student 
>>>>> loan forgiveness
>>>>> was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this 
>>>>> country lags in
>>>>> education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why 
>>>>> Musk wants to
>>>>> keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make 
>>>>> it so - couple
>>>>> that with this asinine thought that the government 
>>>>> shouldn't be involved
>>>>> in education, and it's no wonder American companies 
>>>>> need to have foreign
>>>>> students.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
>>>>
>>>> Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers paying 
>>>> off college
>>>> graduates' loans. Well of course.....
>>>
>>>     Charge it to people that have hundreds of billions of 
>>> dollars.
>>> They probably won't even notice.
>>>     []'s
>>
>> They already pay most of the income taxes...  and also, 
>> most of the
>> wages.
> <sob> The poor dears! Is there anything we can do to lighten 
> their load? /s
> 


We have among the most steeply sloped income tax curves on 
earth now.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/

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