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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Entwistle <qnivq.ragjvfgyr@ogvagrearg.pbz> Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: @ SCOS Message Format ? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 10:19:37 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 52 Message-ID: <vpesnp$eqgu$1@dont-email.me> References: <a936673b2ed0cc59965b531d3bac44b4$1@octade.net> <vobg9s$smgg$1@dont-email.me> <vobnr5$tmpm$2@dont-email.me> <vobrr2$u49l$2@dont-email.me> <vp8mtf$33amq$1@dont-email.me> <vp8pst$33rjg$1@dont-email.me> <vpauc6$3hnj8$1@dont-email.me> <vpbr94$3rcsk$1@dont-email.me> <vpc1af$3s42d$1@dont-email.me> <vpc3gu$3sf6s$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 11:19:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3a73abcce8f877242164dc72c5008a98"; logging-data="485918"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+93goK/U6kPQqYc6nttie3" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba git@gitlab.gnome.org:GNOME/pan.git) Cancel-Lock: sha1:libE+KY4LhbbptKoqj1p4JJU+kY= Bytes: 3453 On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 08:57:02 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote: > Assumes "facts" not in evidence. Quite right to ask. :) You are probably correct in a lot of what you say, and I accept I may be wrong in much of what I say. Particularly emulation, maybe that isn't the cause of my problem. I've posted some test sequences of the SCOS character set to uk.telecom. Feel free to have a look using your preferred reader. I've concentrated on the sequences where I've noticed I have a problem. There may be others I haven't thought about. They set off as a tidy column of numbers, letters and punctuation marks that are taken from the SCOS character set. I have included back tick, for completeness. I've then read the posts using Pan and Thunderbird. Both exhibit some issues which would prohibit successful decryption in certain circumstances. Some of the sequence of characters that could be interpreted as emoticons get removed and are replaced by unicode characters (or something else) and displayed as an emoticon in both readers. In both cases the underlying characters never reach the reader's display, so any attempt at decrytption, using the ciphertext as presented, will fail. This includes: :) – Smiley face :( – Sad face ;) – Wink :'( – Crying The use of char(94) breaks the line feed in Pan's display window. Not a huge problem, but just a p.i.t.a. The use of char(42) causes text to be in bold in Pan's display window. Again not a big problem. I could work through the somewhat mangled ciphertext I see and replace the unicode characters with the original ASCII ones, but that isn't going to be a particularly easy learning experience for someone new to cryptography. Coupled with the other formatting issues make it feel a bit of a uphill task, which is easy to avoid if we accept some restriction on the character set. Please don't feel I getting at you over this. I'd like to take a greater part in sci.crypt, but I don't think we're all seeing the same things, which makes participation difficult. Best wishes, -- David Entwistle