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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marion <marion@facts.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple tacitly admits their CPUs and new Modem are merely a marketing gimmick Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 03:18:45 -0000 (UTC) Organization: BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com) Message-ID: <vpgoek$2qn9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> References: <76c59e31ac44677e6484fba540ef2ad7a65fb9ec@i2pn2.org> <vpdl7n$51o4$1@dont-email.me> <vpdq0g$6hu6$1@dont-email.me> <vpe0s8$79qh$1@dont-email.me> <vpgmjv$3j1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0p2emp55pnz0m001@reader443.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 03:18:45 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com; logging-data="92905"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blueworldhosting.com" User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (CYGWIN_NT-10.0-WOW/2.8.0(0.309/5/3) (i686)) Hamster/2.0.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:bzq0V1XD/oN/L7w7rpJh8nclLZs= sha256:A/JZVijh59XIN/LFFIDYMsRuI9+h8/bP5zMorPHjB+w= sha1:xeKi4XZtup7Lf+ZFGQzeWxks8PM= sha256:4qqeF27tH7q+qtJaMBQmPf/TwdUvsYF7sfKGVI7rmV4= Bytes: 4310 Lines: 66 On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 03:03:20 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : >>Let's see, over time, what the tests show on this new Apple C1 modem. > > This is the part that makes me hesitant to proclaim Apple's success. > If they had put it in one of their flagship products that would show > their confidence, but they have stuck it in a budget product and > publicly lowered expectations by stating it won't achieve the greatest > results. Yup. But since nospam long ago proclaimed an Apple modem (particularly an *integrated* Apple modem) was "not needed" & "not wanted", it's good to see that Apple disagreed with the Apple trolls after all on what was needed. Personally, I'm on record for stating Apple would NEVER be able to release their modem until, oh, I forget the exact year but 2028 I think was when most of the Qualcomm patents expired - so I figured it would take until then. But I was wrong. It's rare I'm wrong when it comes to describing Apple's flaws (e.g., even Apple has recently admitted I was dead right for years on Apple's RAM), but this time I was wrong. Apple beat my expectations by 3 years! Which is pretty good. Of course, I said Qualcomm was five years ahead Apple, & moving fast; which is still correct - but C'mon. Let's give Apple credit for once for their design team. They paid BILLIONS for Intel's work and I'm sure they hired as many Qualcomm engineers as possible down there in San Diego. Good for them. Apple had to start from scratch, although I read Qualcomm is searching their patent portfolio so we'll see what happens from that endeavor. But I give Apple credit. I was wrong. I openly apologize for saying Apple would NEVER design a modem (until the patents expired); as Apple seems to have pulled that feat off. SO that's GREAT! Now back to the modem's specifications, I don't believe for a second the "efficiency" claim because it's too amorphous to mean anything, especially paired with Apple's absurd battery-life claims where no battery in any iPhone up until the iPhone 15 has even the bare minimum battery life (in years) due to the crappy capacity of all iPhone batteries, so time will tell - especially since nobody can reproduce Apple's absurd claims. I'm sure it's "more efficient" than something. But what? Being more efficient than a modem that actually does something is like claiming a flashlight is more efficient than a vehicle's headlight. We need to see a 1:1 comparison of the modem for what technicall counts. I'm sure that's coming. It's NOT here yet (as far as I'm aware), so I'll just put out there my feelings which are I was wrong that Apple couldn't design a modem. At this point, I HOPE to dear God that the C1 modem performs well. Let's keep an eye on this, as together we know more than anyone does alone.