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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: Cracking Speech by JDV! Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:17:36 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vpgvdh$tore$2@dont-email.me> References: <621vqjl19cqjvmto27775hbobmt6iu4966@4ax.com> <1r7sjqk.m9ljiy1luon6oN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <k0e1rjpdlkrjm5g2hnolfc8fb7t3ccv6mp@4ax.com> <voqh85$45vh$1@dont-email.me> <nnd$1c0a493c$64b42627@348c93deba5d3f92> <pngmrjpb6t3jr1to9jj65q17eqrlmpc7sj@4ax.com> <vpg06r$l159$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 06:17:37 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a403c7f989e4753c6d1ea12492f02516"; logging-data="975726"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19DBaylf4SHKa891Snhhkj9YhK5WaC1kVA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qy9M8OxntWgpYWiakQ8HIkg70Js= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250223-4, 24/2/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vpg06r$l159$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2438 On 24/02/2025 7:29 am, Jeroen Belleman wrote: > On 2/23/25 16:53, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:42:25 +0100, albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl wrote: >> > [Snip!] >> >> We are so lucky to have a phoenetic character set. The early teletype >> machines used a 5-bit Baudot code. And how did the Chinese manage to >> use the telegraph? > > Surely you are joking? The latin characters may have been phonetic > in Latin, but they certainly aren't in English! They weren't in Latin either. The critical point is that most written language uses a limited character set, which can be roughly matched up to the numbers of phonemes used in the spoken language. UK English has 44 phonemes, American English has 40. The difference is in the diphthong count, and diphthongs are written as paired vowels. The original phonetic alphabets may well have been phonemic in the languages they were devised for, but that was a long time ago, and they've been adapted to represent many different languages since then. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney