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From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt
Subject: Re: @ SCOS Message Format ?
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:19:32 +0000
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On 24/02/2025 09:51, David Entwistle wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 10:55:41 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> 
>> I did. I found no articles under your name in the current feed for that
>> group.
>>   
>> I have found nothing of the kind in that group.
>>
> 
> Oh dear. Stephan found them. Perhaps your reader. ;)

My reader is Thunderbird.

My server is Eternal September.

> they should start at:
> 
> Subject: Character Test
> Message-ID: <vpeakb$cgsc$1@dont-email.me>

They don't. I see no articles from you in the current feed, which 
purports to go back to 2017.


>> If your newsreader turns valid C into sad faces, your newsreader is
>> broken. Solution: download a newsreader that works.
> 
> Okay, but I've now used a couple of popular newsgroup readers, and with
> default settings I don't see valid C code in the reader message display of
> either.

What C code? Perhaps we are talking at cross-purposes.

I am not talking about any specific C code in any specific 
message. I am talking about newsreaders that could corrupt valid 
C code by turning valid syntax into emoticons. You seem to think 
that such corruption would be justifiable. I disagree.

> My concern is that if we get three new human readers of sci.crypt, keen to
> learn, but relatively inexperienced, and as an introduction we post a
> SCOS-encrypted ciphertext as a challenge, and then ask each how many
> characters are there in the ciphertext, we will likely get three different
> answers.

I consider that to be unlikely, since the only way it could 
happen is that two of them have broken newsreaders (and, for 
there to be /three/ answers, they'd have to be broken in two 
different ways).

>> I will not deny that I find it a little frustrating that you have
>> continually ignored my substantive point, which is that you are
>> attempting to fix the wrong software. But a reasonable man is open to
>> persuasion, and you do strike me as being a reasonable man, so I live in
>> hope.
> 
> Sorry for the frustration - I recognize I must be causing it and it pains
> me. However, I feel I am speaking on behalf of the other new and less-
> experienced readers and potential readers.

These new and less experienced readers presumably all use new and 
less experienced newsreaders.

>> The fix is simple. Get a newsreader that doesn't mangle articles, not
>> least because much of what is posted here is source code, and an attempt
>> to change programming language syntax to indulge Pan's corrupting whim
>> is not likely to succeed.
> 
> Pan's and Thunderbird's whim... I'll think about it.

I have found no problem with Thunderbird corrupting text. Can you 
post an example that my reader (115.18.0 (64-bit)) will mangle in 
the way you claim?

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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