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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Apple tacitly admits their CPUs and new Modem are merely a
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:59:37 -0800
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On 2025-02-24 10:54, Marion wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 17:20:41 +1300, Your Name wrote :
> 
> 
>>>> Let's see, over time, what the tests show on this new Apple C1 modem.
>>>
>>> This is the part that makes me hesitant to proclaim Apple's success.
>>> If they had put it in one of their flagship products that would show
>>> their confidence, but they have stuck it in a budget product and
>>> publicly lowered expectations by stating it won't achieve the greatest
>>> results.
>>
>> Apple has done that before. The Apple Silicon M-series CPU chips 
>> debuted in the low-end MacBook Air, 13in MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini, 
>> before slowly being rolled out to the higher end models, with the top- 
>> end Mac Pro being the very last to be swapped over from Intel CPUs.
> 
> I realize Apple herd animals are desperate for something (anything!) they
> can claim Apple is good at in terms of SOC design, but the sad fact is that
> Apple failed at GPU design (and publicly gave up on it) and Apple has

False. Every Apple device manufactured today uses an Apple-designed GPU 
as a part of its system-on-a-chip Apple Silicon system.

> failed in desktop CPUs (given they're all unpatchably flawed so far).
> 
> But more to the point, up until this week Apple had failed in 5G modem
> design (so far, even teamed up with Intel) but now Apple has "success".
> 
> I don't begrudge Apple their success in 5G modem design. I love it!
> I thought Apple would never build a 5G modem until QCOM's patents expired.
> 
> So Apple beat my predictions by about 3 years!
> 
> Of course, I had "assumed" Apple wouldn't release a 5G modem that was the
> laughingstock of the technical community - so I assumed it was competitive.
> 
> Time will tell.
> 
> None of us know (yet) whether this new C1 modem is competitive or not.
> We just don't.

But in a week or so, you'll declare it "crappy" without justification.