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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Ove Interest? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:30:30 -0600 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 107 Message-ID: <vpikt5$1eguv$2@dont-email.me> References: <vp2eb0$1p07n$1@dont-email.me> <vp3h05$1vj72$1@dont-email.me> <si7brj1189vgnldoc2f5kponbggsp0g0p1@4ax.com> <vp4odj$29p5k$2@dont-email.me> <m1mj6oFbac6U1@mid.individual.net> <8j6crjt6k859s5kn3bg5pafd7js4g14fdv@4ax.com> <m1ml6vFbj6eU1@mid.individual.net> <3u8crj5p3umbgb1eumudsj1qpbajspj14l@4ax.com> <0vucrjd87524n3u21535lq4ufn5mrockll@4ax.com> <vpho3l$12oqn$1@dont-email.me> <49rorj9rap7bjo4ov4iv7edkmcp78jarea@4ax.com> <vpi0un$14mjl$1@dont-email.me> <vpi2sn$15bsn$1@dont-email.me> <h27prjt1ohg3m08a5c1qutro2rmo72ah5e@4ax.com> <vpi9bn$14uim$4@dont-email.me> <vpihu2$1dmv5$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:30:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c532f6fb1e42b4df5f14e7eb781a6b4d"; logging-data="1524703"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18bfHFHpzpwB1yR8INshIg+" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:6ZX1Q0fwOrKelYSxepE3V+WpMmQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vpihu2$1dmv5$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5235 On 2/24/2025 1:39 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 2/24/2025 12:13 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >> On 2/24/2025 11:37 AM, John B. wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:23:04 -0600, AMuzi >>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/24/2025 8:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> On 2/24/2025 8:09 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would doubt very much that a large segment of the >>>>>> readers here would >>>>>> be familiar with the term Zen. >>>>> >>>>> I suppose you could ask. >>>>> >>>>> Speaking for myself, it's been about a week since Zen >>>>> Buddhism came up in conversation with a friend, and there >>>>> was a brief mention in a conversation with different >>>>> friends >>>>> two days ago. >>>>> >>>>> Not that I'm an expert. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> +1 I think most people have at least a passing familiarity. >>>> I read this in 1967 but never achieved enlightenment. Nor >>>> was I able to levitate. Dammit. >>>> >>>> https://www.alibris.com/Life-and-teaching-of-the- >>>> masters-of-the-Far- East-Baird-T-Spalding/book/3929244? >>>> matches=181 >>> >>> Apparently from your posts you had an interest in Asia. >>> But for the >>> others I find it rather unusual that a Usian would know >>> anything about >>> a branch of Buddhism that is so little known even where >>> the major >>> version of the religion is as common as it is here. >> >> I think it's a bit more recognized than you're assuming. >> >> In my youth when I was looking at different religions I >> spent a bit of time on Buddhism. Let's call it quite a bit >> more than a passing interest, but I never claimed to >> actually follow the teachings of the Buddha. I read a >> number of books on the practice, listened to Kirtans, >> meditated, and started yoga (as a meditation technique >> rather than fitness. These days I do my own practice a few >> times a week and go to classes occasionally with my wife, >> who teaches at a couple of local studios) >> >> The moniker 'Zencycle' is a reference to the level of >> mindfulness I can achieve while riding. >> >> * >> A Bicycle koan >> >> A Zen Teacher saw five of his students return from the >> market, riding their bicycles. When they had dismounted, >> the teacher asked the students, >> >> “Why are you riding your bicycles?” >> >> The first student replied, “The bicycle is carrying this >> sack of potatoes. I am glad that I do not have to carry >> them on my back!” >> >> The teacher praised the student, saying, “You are a smart >> boy. When you grow old, you will not walk hunched over, as >> I do.” >> >> The second student replied, “I love to watch the trees and >> fields pass by as I roll down the path.” >> >> The teacher commended the student, “Your eyes are open and >> you see the world.” >> >> The third student replied, “When I ride my bicycle, I am >> content to chant, nam myoho renge kyo.” >> >> The teacher gave praise to the third student, “Your mind >> will roll with the ease of a newly trued wheel.” >> >> The fourth student answered, “Riding my bicycle, I live in >> harmony with all beings.” >> >> The teacher was pleased and said, “You are riding on the >> golden path of non-harming.” >> >> The fifth student replied, “I ride my bicycle to ride my >> bicycle.” >> >> The teacher went and sat at the feet of the fifth student, >> and said, “I am your disciple." >> * > > I remember reading that one before. I don't remember where > or when. > Grant Peterson's newsletter about 20 years ago. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971