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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:47:05 -0600
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On 2/24/2025 7:26 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 2/24/2025 8:12 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 2/24/2025 6:06 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 2/24/2025 6:16 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 2/24/2025 3:47 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 2/24/2025 4:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> HHH that aborts its simulation and a purely
>>>> hypothetical (imaginary never implemented)
>>>> HHH that never aborts its simulation.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Same thing.  F aborts its (admittedly poor) simulation by breaking 
>>> out of a recursive chain, and a hypothetical F that performs a 
>>> correct unaborted simulation.
>>
>> The simple fact that the hypothetical HHH would never
>> terminate conclusively proves that DD specifies behavior
>> that cannot possibly terminate normally.
> 
> And the simple fact that the hypothetical F would never terminate 
> conclusively proves that no_numbers_greater_than_10 specifies behavior 
> that cannot possibly terminate normally.
> 
> Agreed?

I will not discuss your code.

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