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From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH --- RECURSIVE CHAIN
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:18:32 -0500
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On 2/24/2025 9:15 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 2/24/2025 8:04 PM, dbush wrote:
>> On 2/24/2025 8:59 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 2/24/2025 7:51 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>> On 2/24/2025 8:47 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 2/24/2025 7:26 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/24/2025 8:12 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/24/2025 6:06 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/24/2025 6:16 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/2025 3:47 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/2025 4:26 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HHH that aborts its simulation and a purely
>>>>>>>>> hypothetical (imaginary never implemented)
>>>>>>>>> HHH that never aborts its simulation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same thing.  F aborts its (admittedly poor) simulation by 
>>>>>>>> breaking out of a recursive chain, and a hypothetical F that 
>>>>>>>> performs a correct unaborted simulation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The simple fact that the hypothetical HHH would never
>>>>>>> terminate conclusively proves that DD specifies behavior
>>>>>>> that cannot possibly terminate normally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the simple fact that the hypothetical F would never terminate 
>>>>>> conclusively proves that no_numbers_greater_than_10 specifies 
>>>>>> behavior that cannot possibly terminate normally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>>
>>>>> I will not discuss your code.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you respond to yourself here:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/2024 11:41 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>  > That is a dishonest dodge. An honest rebuttal would explain
>>>>  > all of the details of how I am incorrect. You can't do that
>>>>  > because I am correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your code is not isomorphic to my code thus an
>>> irrelevant change of subject away from the point.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> That is counter-factual.
>>
>> According to you, the behavior of DD correctly simulated by HHH is 
>> defined by this code:
>>
>> int HHH(ptr P)
>> {
>>      /* replace all code with an unconditional simulator */
>> }
>>
> 
> I already corrected you on this misunderstanding.
> HHH has two versions the real one and the imaginary
> on that never aborts the simulation of its input.
> 
> 
> 


And F has two versions, a real one and the imaginary one that never 
aborts the simulation of its input.