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Subject: Re: Sunny Hostin: It's "Un-Godly, Not Christian" To Criticize "Woke" Culture
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:15:48 -0000 (UTC)
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On Feb 25, 2025 at 12:08:14 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 19:39:59 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2025 at 10:51:44 AM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 18:43:43 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>>>  On Feb 25, 2025 at 1:30:45 AM PST, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>   Sunny Hostin claimed on Monday that it was "un-Godly" and "not Christian"
>>>>>  to 
>>>>>   oppose woke culture, arguing that people who did so only proved that they
>>>>>  did
>>>>>   
>>>>>   not care about their neighbors.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   Hostin and THE VIEW cohost Whoopi Goldberg discussed their own personal 
>>>>>   histories, saying that because they had always been around people who were 
>>>>>   fighting for things like Civil Rights and other issues, they had "never
>>>>>  been 
>>>>>   asleep".
>>>>>   
>>>>>   "I thought about the conversations that you and I have had, Whoopi, so
>>>>> many 
>>>>>   times about the co-opting of the word 'woke,'" Hostin began. "And the fact 
>>>>>   that the right somehow has made it a dirty word."
>>>>  
>>>>  The meanings of words change over time, Sunny. You're allegedly a
>>>>  highly-educated lawyer, so you should know that.
>>>>  
>>>>  Do we need to go over the history of the word 'gay' for that concept to sink
>>>>  through that bone spur you call a skull?
>>>  
>>>  She would likely dance with gay abandon while you talk about that
>>>  history.
>>>  
>>>>>   "And so Whoopi will often tell me, 'I've never been asleep,'" she added.
>>>>>  "And
>>>>>   
>>>>>   that's how I feel... so it angers me when people are like, 'This woke
>>>>> stuff 
>>>>>   gotta go.' That's telling me that you don't care about my lived experience
>>>>  
>>>>  Well, you got that one right, Sunny. I don't care about your 'lived
>>>>  experience'. You're one of the most racist people on TV. You're a horrible
>>>>  person and whatever experiences you've had concern me not in the slightest.
>>>>  
>>>>  And what the hell is 'lived experience, anyway? What other experience could
>>>>  you have other than that through which you've lived?
>>>  
>>>  I'm sure she means her "lived experience" which makes her better to
>>>  talk about this subject than you and your "lived experience".
>> 
>> Well, sure, but why not simply call it 'experience', since there can be no
>> other kind?
> 
> Because "experience" is a generic term and there's an attempt to put
> some special meaning to the term "lived experience."

Exactly. All the smarmy jargon is supposed to make you think they're somehow
special or smarter than you are.

>> People-- particularly on the Left, but sometimes on the Right, as well-- seem
>> to feel obligated to constantly make up new jargony terms for stuff that can
>> already by described using normal words in the English language.
> 
> Oh, so you mean that should only be allowed by lawyers? ;)
>> 
>> 'Social distance' is another one that leaps to mind. Why did we need a new
>> term for that? Why couldn't we just call it 'distance'? It's literally means
>> the same thing.
> 
> It doesn't really. Social distance means staying outside of someone's
> social bubble. Which means it isn't a set distance as what I might
> require to feel comfortable is likely different from what you or Anim
> might require. 

It actually *was* a set distance. Fauci and the CDC claimed it was six feet,
which we now know to have been completely made-up with no basis in science.

>> Another one that recently seems to have spread everywhere is the use of
>> 'giving' to mean 'implies' or 'seems like'. This is particularly popular
>> among
>> GenZers. They say things like,
>> 
>> "She's giving jealousy" instead of "She seems jealous."
> 
> Haven't seen that one. I would be a bit confused by someone saying the
> former as I'm not sure how one gives jealousy. Does it come in the
> form of a pill?
> 
>> and
>> 
>> "That trailer's giving STAR WARS" instead of "That trailer seems like a STAR
>> WARS copy."
> 
> I could see the former if they had said "STAR WARS vibes" as I would
> then have a sense of what they were meaning and maybe that is what was
> meant. Just that the writer chose to leave off the "vibes" portion as
> they saw it as a given thing.