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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Mathematical incompleteness has always been a misconception --- Tarski Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 14:57:44 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 46 Message-ID: <vplas8$25vp2$2@dont-email.me> References: <vnh0sq$35mcm$1@dont-email.me> <vnl9vj$4f8i$1@dont-email.me> <vnndqs$kef3$1@dont-email.me> <vnpd96$vl84$1@dont-email.me> <vnqm3p$1apip$1@dont-email.me> <vnqsbh$1c5sq$1@dont-email.me> <vnsm90$1pr86$1@dont-email.me> <vnte6s$1tra8$1@dont-email.me> <vnv4tf$2a43e$1@dont-email.me> <vo0249$2eqdl$1@dont-email.me> <vo1qae$2s4cr$1@dont-email.me> <vo2i10$302f0$1@dont-email.me> <vo4nj4$3f6so$1@dont-email.me> <vo5btf$3ipo2$1@dont-email.me> <vo7ckh$q2p$1@dont-email.me> <vo7tdg$36ra$6@dont-email.me> <voa09t$idij$1@dont-email.me> <7e532aaf77653daac5ca2b70bf26d0a3bc515abf@i2pn2.org> <voceuj$14r1q$1@dont-email.me> <vocp21$16c4e$1@dont-email.me> <vof6hb$1nh1f$1@dont-email.me> <voflif$1q1mh$2@dont-email.me> <vohsmu$29krm$1@dont-email.me> <vp10ic$1e7iv$2@dont-email.me> <vp6qjb$2ousc$1@dont-email.me> <vpb1le$3jct4$13@dont-email.me> <vpc4iq$3snkm$1@dont-email.me> <vpd28k$irt$9@dont-email.me> <vphcni$10mhs$1@dont-email.me> <vpisnk$1fr59$1@dont-email.me> <vpko8k$2229h$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 21:57:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="17e5a05b7136cdaa772e93aa83241211"; logging-data="2293538"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX191jNaWiyAE27kJsG6tIs8Y" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:94hc11Nzw5oQ0mDxpfCRmYR1qU4= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250225-8, 2/25/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vpko8k$2229h$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3563 On 2/25/2025 9:40 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-02-24 22:44:03 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 2/24/2025 3:04 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-02-22 17:41:40 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 2/22/2025 3:15 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-02-21 23:19:10 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/20/2025 2:54 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2025-02-18 03:59:08 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tarski anchored his whole proof in the Liar Paradox. >>>>> >>>>> More specifically, to the idea that the Liar Paradox does not have a >>>>> truth value. Do you reject that idea? >>>> >>>> This was not what Tarski was saying. >>> >>> Yes, he was. He just assumed that his readers already know that the >>> Liar Paradox does not have a truth value so he didn't need to be >>> emphatically explicit about that point. >> >> In other words you never read this: >> https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_275_276.pdf > > Did you? Nowhere on those pages he claims that the Liar paradox is true > nor that the Liar paradox is false. > We shall show that the sentence x is actually undecidable and at the same time true. https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_247_248.pdf > On what page and line did Tarski say anything that could justfy > the claim you made above? > -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer