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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: signal leads that pick up less ambient noise? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 20:40:22 +1100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vpmnih$2gl7g$1@dont-email.me> References: <87cyfd3hpz.fsf@librehacker.com> <k1acrj172rnjg5i2su95ovs9f0vcnjn69p@4ax.com> <8734g9qzgu.fsf@librehacker.com> <vp7o6f$2stuq$4@dont-email.me> <87tt8onssh.fsf@librehacker.com> <vp9hc3$3b68q$1@dont-email.me> <87a5afnsh1.fsf@librehacker.com> <vpad2m$1ndv$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <87wmdjm7pg.fsf@librehacker.com> <mjkhrjpt9q427bkb8rvtqe7aeugta3q43e@4ax.com> <87seo7m33b.fsf@librehacker.com> <7u2irj1m59u6974v5mndoa080o0c5ci4bj@4ax.com> <878qpvme0h.fsf@librehacker.com> <vpjed8$1nanm$1@dont-email.me> <871pvlsz2s.fsf@librehacker.com> <vpm0qm$29gbe$1@dont-email.me> <vpmabl$18em$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:40:34 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="400e84bdc612ef5b59c8e09f5b9e3a8d"; logging-data="2643184"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/R39roX0AsxDF+V1JGgTqypmTwLSwmEfs=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:zWOiQziJBxRStldXi9y9ZzDzvGM= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250226-0, 26/2/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vpmabl$18em$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Bytes: 3997 On 26/02/2025 4:55 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: > "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message news:vpm0qm$29gbe$1@dont-email.me... >> On 26/02/2025 4:39 am, Christopher Howard wrote: >>> Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> writes: >>> >>>> On 25/02/2025 4:46 am, Christopher Howard wrote: >>>>>> Google for coaxial feed through capacitors. >>>> Capacitors and resistors don't ring. Adding inductance can introduce >>>> ringing. but enough resistance can make the resonant circuit >>>> critically damped and the voltages and current will decay >>>> monotonically. >>> >>> So, when you use a coaxial feed through capacitors on your Faraday cage, >>> do you add a resistor right after the capacitor, to reduce/eliminate >>> ringing? >> >> The whole point about coaxial connectors is that the distributed capacitance and inductance gives you a R50R transmission line. >> The only way to get "ringing" out of that is to fail to terminate the transmission line with it's characteristic impedance. In >> practice it is hard to do it perfectly and you do tend to get low level reflections, but they die out fast, >> >>> Or are you just trying that all your inputs on the board have >>> resistors before whatever op amps or other components that they feed >>> into? >> >> The message is rather more complicated than that. The later editions of Ralph Morrison's book do go into that in more detail than >> the earlier editions. > > The sixth edition only mentions the "feed-through" capacitor in one paragraph on page 65. > The fifth edition does not mention them at all as far as I can tell. Feed-through capacitors seem only to be used in RF electronics, and Ralph Morrison's book initially concentrated on regular industrial electronics. Later editions did move on to higher frequency applications. I never used a feed-though capacitor anywhere in the work I did - if we need to put a fast signal through a conducting bulk-head we used coax feed-throughs. Feedthrough capacitors are relatively exotic devices. Your example of their application seems to be a case where an RF specialist went in for a bit of over-kill. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney