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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: [OT] Standards (was Re: Simple string conversion from UCS2 to ISO8859-1) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 13:22:10 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vpn11j$2ibap$1@dont-email.me> References: <vp9oml$3a0k5$1@dont-email.me> <87bjuvm68v.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vpciqb$3unkp$3@dont-email.me> <vpi4t3$10fsl$3@dont-email.me> <vpijsc$1eak4$3@dont-email.me> <vpjrr7$1qe9i$2@dont-email.me> <de55644ade1f0519ad6e353a4e32f301dcfff10c@i2pn2.org> <vpklh3$1qe9i$3@dont-email.me> <vpkqcn$22c6h$1@dont-email.me> <vpmcsg$2evft$1@dont-email.me> <vpmkoc$2g34r$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 13:22:12 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f15dbda4db70a6f9b37f9a6418442d56"; logging-data="2698585"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19s66InbPXBYQKvf0FnMMtB" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wDziDwCLh692Aa8L1RUdLzr+rvU= In-Reply-To: <vpmkoc$2g34r$2@dont-email.me> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Bytes: 2565 On 26.02.2025 09:52, David Brown wrote: > On 26/02/2025 07:38, Janis Papanagnou wrote: >> >> [*] The colloquial terminology is sometimes quite fuzzy though; e.g. >> the *.doc format was often named "de facto standard", but there was >> a long period of time neither a public document of that "standard" >> nor was it a standard in the first place; the proprietary format >> changed silently while the extension (and folks calling the format >> a "standard") stayed. > > In that particular example, the colloquial use of the term "standard" > was very far from the technical term! Yes, that is true. Nonetheless some folks foster "parallel facts" and we need to dispute with them.[*] > And even after Microsoft bribed > and bullied their way into getting docx format ratified as an ISO > standard, they never actually followed their own "standard" very closely > in their own software. Oh, I didn't know that. (I actually haven't followed MS policy the last decades.) Janis [*] Particularly bad if such folks belong to the management... - I better not start complaining...