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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Science News
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 14:07:25 -0600
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On 2/26/2025 12:36 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
> On 26-Feb-25 12:58, RonO wrote:
>> On 2/26/2025 11:19 AM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
>>> On 26-Feb-25 10:52, RonO wrote:
>>>> https://www.science.org/news
>>>>
>>>> The News site for the journal Science has a lot about Trump's 
>>>> influence on science.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/u-s-gene-banks-key-new- 
>>>> crops- hobbled-trump-job-cuts
>>>>
>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/more-nih-job-cuts-coming- 
>>>> agency- scientists-already-reeling-after-week-firings
>>>>
>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/u-s-early-career- 
>>>> researchers- struggling-amid-chaos
>>>>
>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/nasa-cuts-international- 
>>>> climate- science-support
>>>>
>>>> https://www.science.org/content/article/science-trump-latest-news
>>>>
>>>> These are just articles on the first page.
>>>>
>>>> What Trump is doing could disrupt science in the US for decades.
>>>
>>> To the authoritarians, that's a feature, not a bug.
>>>
>>
>> It is what Putin wants Trump to do to the US.
> 
> Yup. It's also what our domestic oligarchs want: When we get poorer, 
> they get richer. And, of course, there are millions of anti-intellectual 
> clodhoppers who think science is a globalist conspiracy to funnel tax 
> dollars to queer and brown people. They will gladly vote against their 
> own interests as long as it hurts the people they hate.
> 
> An example: During his campaign, Trump promised cheap eggs. He bragged 
> he won the election with that promise. Now eggs are more expensive than 
> ever, and Trump has admitted he can't do a damn thing about it. But most 
> of his supporters AREN'T outraged, because it was never REALLY about the 
> price of eggs.
> 
> "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to 
> seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his 
> family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an 
> old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, 
> Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a 
> curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it." — Davis X. Machina
> 

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-02-26/federal-job-cuts-hit-trump-supporters

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-02-24/russia-ukraine-trump-looks-like-vladimir-putins-wingman

It may be true that Trump supporters were not the type of federal 
workers we would want to be carrying out US policy, but Trump never 
seemed to care about them, and he didn't need them to do what he has 
wanted to do to federal programs.  Putin never wanted a more efficient 
US federal program, he wanted what Trump is providing, more 
dysfunctional federal efforts.

Ron Okimoto