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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 02:35:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <vpoj2c$2qu6q$1@dont-email.me> References: <f1vjrjda3bjinvk95eriko15qh4b6sar75@4ax.com> <slrnvrk20u.2jv.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <tddkrj9i0dqr3bucv9afkl1qa8pis2au8a@4ax.com> <slrnvrkg10.2ka.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <g0hkrjtk6aatgqtoaa26sjo4n9ftubpjsm@4ax.com> <slrnvrm8oq.2sq.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <iotmrjpsg4q54mn51l14p6n1emkpt8ljop@4ax.com> <slrnvrn25p.2rk.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <662nrjdfankavfplgh7am434t3u352m747@4ax.com> <slrnvrn2nh.2rk.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <6v2nrjdhjnis3psamdrll6t9sfl3bi8c6d@4ax.com> <slrnvrn7uo.5sq.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <_S_uP.306587$%5vf.244230@fx46.iad> <vpkgsh$2090h$1@dont-email.me> <zVmvP.381942$FQIc.82436@fx02.iad> <vpmgq6$2fgso$2@dont-email.me> <r%EvP.172682$azlb.101389@fx43.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 03:35:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5ab449877438a373dc14e41a9c602da3"; logging-data="2980058"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wdFGaQagpNekycTJjTR8j" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SNANpuLyXaFOmnvG8u0uK+2Bgck= Bytes: 5120 On 2025-02-26, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-02-26 2:45 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2025-02-25, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-02-25 8:34 a.m., RonB wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-24, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> On 2025-02-23 5:23 p.m., Adison Vohn Caterson wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-02-23, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Linux wins because it isn't the behemoth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I knew it was just the company. >>>>>>>> I don't like WalMart, but I will secretly shop there ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux supports my WiFi, made in China, edge technology as WiFi6 is >>>>>>> evolving, same maker with WiFi7 on Windows. It's a new era. >>>>>> >>>>>> This openSUSE install went well, and other than screen orientation and >>>>>> virtual keyboard, everything worked OOTB. >>>>>> My first Linux use was SUSE 10.1, bought in a box from a store. >>>>>> It was aggravating to get it running, I mostly remember having to get a >>>>>> serial port modem, would not use my internal modem (I think US Robotics). >>>>>> >>>>>> Tried Ubuntu, Fedora in between, been 5 years since I've tried again. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a computer. >>>>> >>>>> A lot of people, myself included, feel that their choice of operating >>>>> system will make a social, political or economic difference in the >>>>> world. I agree with you now: it's a computer. The operating system you >>>>> use should be the one which properly supports the hardware you >>>>> purchased. For a lot of hardware, that will be Windows or MacOS. >>>>> Sometimes, Linux does a better job on that hardware, but that is rare. >>>> >>>> No, it's not "rare" at all. Linux runs faster on almost all hardware. (I >>>> can't speak for ARM Macs because I've never seen one.) >>> >>> Doing a better job is not limited to speed. A lot of people would prefer >>> that their machines recognize their hardware and make proper use of it >>> over raw speed. What's the point, for example, of having a very fast >>> machine if the trackpad doesn't work properly, the colours are off and >>> closing the lid of your laptop causes the machine to shut down? >> >> In 18 years my Linux machines HAVE all recognized the hardware. This simply >> is not an issue for me. >> >> I realize that it's (obviously) not the case with you, but I think 99% of >> your issues stem from nVidia and trying to run Windows games on Linux. > > Oh, nvidia is definitely the problem. That's why I won't bother to > install Linux on any hardware which has an nvidia chip. What bothers me > though is that manufacturers like System76 include them on their higher > end machines. I can't imagine why AMD's GPUs, open-source drivers and > all, wouldn't be a better idea for them. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Linux ran perfectly on this laptop since the > gpu is an Intel HD 6000 or whatever. Apparently, there is still a > suspend issue, but I can live with that since it will stay on my desk at > work. I don't think I've run into a suspend issue since I quit using my Dell D400 laptop (which I think was made in 2003). But, again, my computers have almost all been Dell business machines with Intel GPUs. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien