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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Anyone with sufficient knowledge of C knows that DD specifies non-terminating behavior to HHH Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 23:04:30 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vporov$2vaf3$9@dont-email.me> References: <vo6420$3mpmf$1@dont-email.me> <vote0u$nf28$1@dont-email.me> <3b8a5f4be53047b2a6c03f9678d0253e137d3c40@i2pn2.org> <votn1l$pb7c$1@dont-email.me> <5cd9bc55c484f10efd7818ecadf169a11fcc58e1@i2pn2.org> <votq5o$ppgs$1@dont-email.me> <vouu57$12hqt$3@dont-email.me> <vp1jkg$1kstl$1@dont-email.me> <vp1qp1$1m05h$2@dont-email.me> <vp46l6$26r1n$1@dont-email.me> <vp5t55$2gt2s$1@dont-email.me> <vp6pmb$2opvi$1@dont-email.me> <vp8700$30tdq$1@dont-email.me> <vp9ct8$3af6t$1@dont-email.me> <vpav34$3jct4$1@dont-email.me> <vpc3u9$3skb7$1@dont-email.me> <vpcsvk$irt$2@dont-email.me> <vpev2e$fgop$1@dont-email.me> <vpfmpp$j7qb$6@dont-email.me> <vphbnb$10gus$1@dont-email.me> <vpivp4$1fvqe$6@dont-email.me> <vpklrk$21jn9$1@dont-email.me> <vplbnp$25vp2$5@dont-email.me> <b122ed1dc2c636321627d4dfc7936e463f920690@i2pn2.org> <vpltcn$28j3a$6@dont-email.me> <7eb818791abdbf7830165a16375b0aa7c82be013@i2pn2.org> <vpn9eu$2jkdj$4@dont-email.me> <5d6c248196511204513c0303bb393cceec0fd8ec@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:04:31 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f1b30fca70f728e62d75b9f119ac165f"; logging-data="3123683"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+xsZjQS9elG7HphuwIGfKf" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8gI0QAd0NDHRujE+/d9tk2IN7hA= In-Reply-To: <5d6c248196511204513c0303bb393cceec0fd8ec@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250226-4, 2/26/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3327 On 2/26/2025 5:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/26/25 9:45 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 2/26/2025 3:29 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:13:43 -0600 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 2/25/2025 5:41 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> >> >>>> The behavior of DD emulated by HHH only refers to DD and the fact that >>>> HHH emulates this DD. >>> On on hand, the simulator can have no influence on the execution. >> >>> On the other, that same simulator is part of the program. >>> You don't understand this simple entanglement. >>> >> >> Unless having no influence causes itself to >> never terminate then the one influence that >> it must have is stopping the emulation of this input. >> > > But it isn't an EXTERNAL influnce, but the behavior of the code of the > program itself, in the code of HHH that DD calls, which *IS* part of DD. > > You are just proving you don't kno We are asking can DD emulated by HHH possibly reach its own return instruction? Dishonest dodges away from this point are less than no rebuttal at all. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer