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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: OT: The AIs have it... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 17:46:55 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vpq8ef$377im$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpnugk$2nkhb$1@dont-email.me> <l2dvrj55dbp6n7lqq5v0i0njvhg0p4en8a@4ax.com> <vpoin3$2qst3$1@dont-email.me> <vpq54s$36i1j$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 18:46:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="acaa12586b92babd1a8d927ad045e143"; logging-data="3382870"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18Ejf75z8nAfGQD4uGgcSGO" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:Fx+8DpQEA98I//yHHh55APUU+yM= Bytes: 2743 On Feb 27, 2025 at 8:50:35 AM PST, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > On 2/26/2025 9:29 PM, BTR1701 wrote: >> On Feb 26, 2025 at 4:40:52 PM PST, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:34:00 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Feb 26, 2025 at 3:06:45 PM PST, "Alan Smithee" <alms@last.inc> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 1,000 artists release a silent album to protest AI taking their works... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.techspot.com/news/106909-over-1000-musicians-release-silent-album-protest-ai.html >>>> >>>> I've never understood the claim that training AI systems on books, music, >>>> etc. >>>> is a copyright violation in the first place. >>>> >>>> The AI isn't making an unauthorized copy of the work. It's reading (or >>>> listening to ) the work and learning from it. This isn't any different >>>> than a >>>> human being reading a book and learning from it. >>>> >>>> Some have said, well, the AI makes a copy of the work in its brain while >>>> it's >>>> learning but the same can be said of a human. Why is one a (supposed) >>>> copyright violation but the other is not? >>>> >>> >>> The AI isn't paying for the work and the works in question aren't free >>> for anyone to use. >> >> I don't pay for the books in my local library? Am I committing a copyright >> violation by reading them? > > You are if you read them to someone else. Nope. Reading them aloud to someone in person is not a public performance any more than inviting your friend over to watch a movie with you is a public performance.