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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:43:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 25 Message-ID: <vpqmas$39d65$2@dont-email.me> References: <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vde4b8$268qv$22@dont-email.me> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <wrapper-20241001111737@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <vpl5uk$hhk$3@reader1.panix.com> <c4acndn4jJXKwCP6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1214951717.762291306.657281.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <gIUvP.1415795$21T3.138928@fx18.iad> <cfadnZGxI88orV36nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <vppk4n$33b82$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:43:57 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5663112188f1f002c68c712720ef74d4"; logging-data="3454149"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/UkGKfQHvL5N/5hD199RHe" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:x5oiUSc81isYsG6TS5pHiEqAomg= Bytes: 2920 On Thu, 27 Feb 2025 12:00:23 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > What mattered in COBOL applications was no bugs. None. Not one. *Cough* Y2K *Cough* > The process of analysing a business and creating business oriented > applications that were 100% reliable lead to system analysts working out > how to do it and passing the specification down to programmers and > testing every single module. You *do* realize that the “waterfall” method (what you described above) was only put up as a strawman in a 1970s research paper to advocate for more versatile software development techniques? Nobody in the real world worked that way -- not successfully. Because it was a recipe for producing software that was out of date by the time it shipped. > This is big corporation stuff . You really think big corporations like, say, Google or Facebook, work that way? > IIRC Microfocus COBOL still makes a profit. Microfocus makes a profit, yes. But not from its COBOL compiler.