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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!panix!.POSTED.2602:f977:0:1::2!not-for-mail From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: more on broken schools Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 19:00:30 -0500 (EST) Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000) Message-ID: <vpquau$fmh$1@panix2.panix.com> References: <67b21894$14$17$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <87ldtsjk7l.fsf_-_@example.com> <vpocno$650$1@panix2.panix.com> <87cyf3eh5z.fsf@example.com> Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="2602:f977:0:1::2"; logging-data="5288"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" Bytes: 2079 Lines: 28 Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote: >Oh, I perfectly understand now. (Thanks.) I read ``make'' as a verb in >that phrase. Yeah, it makes sense that someone with no make experience >(at all) could misuse it. He likely didn't have any experience even >with competitors such as gradle or whatever. Right, but how do you get to the point of having a doctorate in CS without having used make? But it was worse than just that: he couldn't get the concept that make figured out what was needed to build things by itself and then figured out what was needed to build those things and then figured out the order to build them by itself. Once you figure that out, actually writing a makefile is not a big deal unless you need portability for a lot of weird machines. >Pretty sad story: as I >discovered flaws in my education, I felt hurt---people wasted my time, >made a fool out of me, hurt me emotionally and so on; not as a >conspiracy against me, but as a matter of course. I feel lucky to have >noticed it throughout the process and not at too many decades later. I don't feel bad at all about having an imperfect and often missing education. Nobody can know everything. But my education was good enough for me to have the tools to learn things that I might need in the future, and that's what I need. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."