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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Another new PC for me! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 07:39:51 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 70 Message-ID: <vprp87$3ilgk$1@dont-email.me> References: <9fusrj5r2ns0g1j5n54bsnaoqqk1pv9iv5@4ax.com> <elkvrjhj8un6sldcc5v8opeaus8bt4gv0b@4ax.com> <n11wP.1356$7AI4.1195@fx14.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 08:39:52 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c4cf06f9c9f4678039fbb411c8cdf841"; logging-data="3757588"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+n+uyk7HbU77GXI8BfS+AY" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JH541Fw1oSYcF7EQM1FlbwTjjek= Bytes: 4641 On 2025-02-27, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2/26/25 21:51, chrisv wrote: >> chrisv wrote: >> >>> Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the >>> Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5. >>> I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core >>> Xeon. Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the >>> reasons for my choices. >>> >>> CPU: Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400) In 2023 a >>> Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my >>> needs. Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I >>> remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. The >>> larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds, >>> gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and >>> that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion >>> cores. It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total >>> system cost by only 10%. And, who knows, maybe some day I will do >>> something that will utilize all the cores. >>> >>> Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar >>> WiFi) Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. The MSI >>> board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try. I >>> perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI. I have no need >>> for the extras that a Z790 board offers. >>> >>> RAM: G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G >>> is way plenty, and will be for a long time. But in the spirit of this >>> PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to >>> endow it with more RAM. I thought about 64G, but that just seemed >>> ridiculous, for what I do. The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and >>> different. The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of >>> custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support >>> faster RAM. >>> >>> SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same) Plenty good. I see no >>> need for PCIe 5, here. >>> >>> PSU: Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold) >>> Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC. >>> >>> CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620) >>> Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers. I might have bought the >>> Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are >>> no longer available. The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said >>> that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably >>> priced. >>> >>> Case: Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same) Has the jacks that >>> I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel. >>> >>> GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070) Both are far from state of the >>> art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games, >>> that I do. >> >> Posted to cola only, for those who filter cross-postings. > > Filtering the crossposts is the first thing I do after installing > Betterbird/Thunderbird. Even when I agree with the posters, I find their > delivery strikingly annoying. Same here. I don't like to irritate people on a totally different newsgroup becuase I didn't realize my post was going somewhere else besides where I expected it to be. It happened to me in the past, so "no crossposts" is the first filter I put in slrn. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien