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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Who remembers how bad analogue television was? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:08:59 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vps90s$3lfa3$1@dont-email.me> References: <m2a9coFaisuU1@mid.individual.net> <sH7wP.450$YeY4.416@fx07.ams4> <vpr3hu$3bojd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:09:00 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="abc7d7d23392b0aeba111963fac3a152"; logging-data="3849539"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/DXeoXGtIZa4Ep06jjxUb2mV0PXrARnVXYxlN/DAF29w==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:U+o+c3aboa/keIoIw4HtDU0R/3s= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vpr3hu$3bojd$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2414 On 28/02/2025 01:29, Don Y wrote: > On 2/27/2025 5:46 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> If reception conditions were poor, yes the picture could degrade a >> bit, but that is far preferable to the behaviour of digital systems >> that completely drop out halfway through the movie if the rain gets >> too heavy. > > Is it the presence of the water in the air that is the problem? > I've noted the correlation but assumed it was because of the > effects of wind and rain on the *tree* that is in my line-of-sight > to the broadcast towers. Quite likely to be a factor. Wet tree leaves can be pretty destructive to signals to hence our local microwave internet requires clear line of sight or the microwave link is unreliable. Some VHF/UHF bands are less susceptible to water in their path. > I.e., if the transmitter had a COMPLETELY unobstructed path to my > antenna, would rain *still* be a problem? Obviously it depends a lot on the frequency, but my satellite feed drops out when there are tall cumulonimbus thunderclouds overhead irrespective of whether it is actually raining. TDTV holds good under most conditions expect when the local mast burned down spectacularly in a freak accident. -- Martin Brown