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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: The Lisa Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 07:47:54 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <vpseq9$3mfbp$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpgghn$o45q$1@dont-email.me> <20250224075243.abbf3892667a0cf1313d1441@127.0.0.1> <vpih89$1d236$2@dont-email.me> <8734g2voya.fsf@example.com> <878qpuk0m6.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <vpjt0i$1qtkt$1@dont-email.me> <87zfi9hzt0.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <program-20250228104727@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <1981-20250228115440@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 14:47:53 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b2c7ebe97e6e4cf301ec33f1d92a1b8e"; logging-data="3882361"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19f+PhlyrYwde1OucHMG8II" Cancel-Lock: sha1:774yfS+n+xt5hVZYkYiGpzEMmp8= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1981-20250228115440@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> On 2/28/25 4:57 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >> IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was: >> You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system >> for the Mac. > > The Lisa might have been used internally at Apple in 1982 and > was released 1983. > >> (After a few years, Macintosh-native development system were >> developed.) > > The Macintosh was released in 1984-01, and around 1986, the > Lisa Workshop was replaced with the Macintosh Programmer's > Workshop which ran inside the Macintosh operating system. > > Some articles for further reading for those who are interested: Macintosh Development in the Dark Ages https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=518 Programming with Lisa Workshop https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=477 The Macintosh had some native languages in fall 1984.