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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.xcski.com!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Pro Plyd <invalide@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: The status of ID and a personal reflection Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 08:29:13 -0700 Organization: Amateur Plyd Lines: 20 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vpsko7$3nf3q$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpf1kr$g09c$1@dont-email.me> <vpshi3$3mrt5$1@dont-email.me> <86eczi5ddv.fsf@example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="45585"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:5t/obilnBVAtFrp+PlNEE9pCJbk= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id E9EF922978C; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:29:22 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9DBE229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:29:20 -0500 (EST) id 2334D1C08BD; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 15:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by newsfeed.bofh.team (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18A231C01C9 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 15:29:15 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D56326228E for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 15:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/D56326228E; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=invalid.invalid id A88FADC01CA; Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:29:12 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:29:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <86eczi5ddv.fsf@example.com> X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1/pwvxwFvZlE4Z2Ii4K6/yDTX9E18lo5IE= HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Richmond wrote: > Kalkidas <eat@joes.pub> writes: > >> There's really nothing as hilarious as watching people -- who spend >> their own lives intelligently designing things -- dismiss the idea >> that someone else intelligently designed the universe in which their >> own intelligence can operate. >> >> The envy is obvious -- they have been outsmarted and they know >> it. Hence the denial. > > Can you explain why designing something proves everything is designed? > > Do you regard "trial and error" as intelligent, or design? Yes. Wait, what was the middle one again?