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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 18:11:40 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vpsu8r$ljl$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <vpl91g$25q46$1@dont-email.me> <1976765442.762208809.808387.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <20250225130315.00004e34@gmail.com> <lhqvP.1323465$if26.592741@fx13.iad> <1924764604.762215659.468999.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vplhqi$26ur1$5@dont-email.me> <mddplj48cec.fsf@panix5.panix.com> <APKdnejSf_m8x1z6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <zBjwP.7$7xi4.4@fx43.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 18:11:40 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="22133"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" Bcc: johnl-sent In-Reply-To: <zBjwP.7$7xi4.4@fx43.iad> X-Headerized: yes Cleverness: minimal X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) It appears that Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> said: >> 8 bits kinda emerged with microprocessors. > >Surely the IBM 360 was responsible for the popularity >of 8-bit bytes - and that drove the adoption by other >computer manufacturers if only to support common I/O >peripherals. Definitely. Once people saw how successful the 360 was I don't think there were any new designs that weren't byte addressable. The success of the byte addressed PDP-11 was the final nail in the coffin for word addressed machines. It seems obvious now that you can do word processing on a byte addresed machine by puttihg the N-byte words at 2^N addresses but the 360 was the first system that did that. READING COMPREHENSION TEST: the PDP-11 was little-endian, unlike all previous byte addressed machines that were big-endian. While there are lots of guesses about why they did that, as far as I can tell, they never wrote down the reason to switch the byte order, and I have looked in a lot of places. To pass the reading comprehension test, if you have the long lost document explaining the decision, please post a link and I will be very grateful, or else don't reply. To fail the test, post yet another guess about why they switched the byte order, ideally including this paragraph that you did not read. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly