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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 20:50:40 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vpt7j0$3r2n0$1@dont-email.me> References: <971448126.749088380.092448.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vd5195$edas$1@dont-email.me> <59CJO.19674$MoU3.15170@fx36.iad> <vd6vto$r0so$1@dont-email.me> <iJEJO.198176$kxD8.81657@fx11.iad> <3hOdnWpQ649QMGr7nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vd8doi$15q07$1@dont-email.me> <vd8eg7$15v1j$2@dont-email.me> <cxicnVzg_cn_eGX7nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdapbn$1kp35$5@dont-email.me> <lltpunF4fseU2@mid.individual.net> <1smdnSjX3YoxgWf7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <llv30aFa6uvU3@mid.individual.net> <vde4b8$268qv$22@dont-email.me> <1396870532.749421730.052473.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <wrapper-20241001111737@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <vpl5uk$hhk$3@reader1.panix.com> <c4acndn4jJXKwCP6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1214951717.762291306.657281.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <m2a04pF90mqU2@mid.individual.net> <vppj5n$33b82$4@dont-email.me> <794317635.762463706.148791.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 21:50:41 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="15a5a1eba7c56e832699653689652217"; logging-data="4033248"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+RK3g15VbAegCE4J+C1GA8" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/f0gRLEqOYEZ9RB618zHDnEOpx4= Bytes: 2872 On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:42:57 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > I used to be able to crank out assembler mostly as fast as I could write > (or type), with some thought required for the tricky bits. C is not > really faster for me to write, or wasn’t when I was doing a bunch of > it. But a line of C typically does a whole lot more than a line of assembler. That is where the productivity gain comes from. Fred Brooks, author of the classic “The Mythical Man-Month”, worked this out years ago: once a code base reaches a certain size, your typical experienced programmer, familiar with the project, is only able to contribute about ten lines of reasonably-debugged code per day. And that applies across a whole range of different languages. This is why very-high-level languages, which can do a whole lot more in a single line of code, offer greater productivity than assembler.