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From: Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Getting old is not for sissies
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:43:01 -0500
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On 2/28/2025 4:39 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 1:02 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>> On 2/28/2025 11:24 AM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>> On Fri Feb 28 11:14:11 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear that. I was riding over lumpy wet ice in a gravel 
>>>>> parking
>>>>> lot yesterday. I was very conscious that falls can now have much worse
>>>>> consequences than they once did.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I think it's still important to keep giving ourselves reasonable
>>>>> challenges, to maintain skill and agility.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I expect that your old steel touring bike is more apt for conditions
>>>> like thqat than Andrew's higher performqance bike.
>>>
>>> Wheelbase, tire width, tread or rider position would make no
>>> difference leaning into a turn over ice.
>>>
>>
>> In my experience seems to tally with that, longer bikes with fatter tyres
>> and so on, only make a difference on areas with marginal grip not zero 
>> grip
>> or near zero!
>>
>> I’ve been caught out even off road with ice on a old Tram road which the
>> ice had at one spot reached sufficient thickness not to crack under my
>> weight, so I tipped over an cracked my wrist which was seriously painful,
>> not helped by me riding home on it which really wasn’t wise!
>>
>> Catstrike bike is probably quite fun on ice, though I’m told that studded
>> tyres are good on ice.
>>
>> Never tried it as well it doesn’t get cold enough for frequent ice around
>> London on the roads, though do get snow and ice to varying degrees, 
>> but bar
>> my experience above ice off road isn’t a problem and the MTB in 
>> particular
>> can just plow though the Snow.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>>
> 
> Amen to that.
> I couldn't manage mine into the overcoat so I rode back to work with 
> that sleeve in my teeth. I can't imagine holding a handebar with a wrist 
> fracture.
> 

Why do I have an image of Aqualung on a bike in my head?

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