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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: House arrest after killing cyclist in hit and run.
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:09:05 -0600
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On 2/28/2025 5:40 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 2/28/2025 3:56 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 3:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>
>>> In my view, a person who kills someone with their car 
>>> should never, ever be allowed to drive again.
>>>
>>>
>>   even if it's a legit accident?
>> Say for example some dumbshit simply walks in front your 
>> car while you're driving along doing say, 40 mph in a 45 
>> mph zone.
> 
> First, let's acknowledge that rule will never be implemented 
> in the U.S. But if it were, driver caution would increase 
> many times over.
> 
> After the first few "dumbshit walks in front of car" 
> episodes actually resulted in "no more driving" and were 
> publicized, motorists might begin slowing to non-fatal 
> speeds when pedestrians (or bicyclists) are within walk-in- 
> front range.
> 
> As I've said here before, if an overhead crane operator 
> killed someone in a factory, I think they'd never be allowed 
> to operate the crane again, no matter what their excuse.
> 
> Humans have given up far more than we should have to 
> motordom. Streets and roads were once the domain of 
> pedestrians, of kids playing, of people interacting. Turning 
> them entirely over to motorists was a deliberate campaign 
> goal of the car manufacturers.
> 
> https://marker.medium.com/the-invention-of-jaywalking- 
> afd48f994c05
> 
> 

I (naively?) assumed you meant 'by negligence or malice' and 
I was happy to agree with that.

But I can't agree with you here.  Extend that argument and 
we'll charge train operators with murder when jerkoffs drive 
around the gate.  Or auto drivers who hit red light running 
cyclists for that matter.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971