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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
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Subject: Re: What Made My Day Today :-)
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Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 18:19:47 -0500
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On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>
>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>> Nazi idiots.
>>
>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
> 
> 
> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  


Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.

Note how quickly after the meeting ended (early) the timestamp on finely 
crafted press releases were published the White House.

Plus as much as one will want to claim 'America First' on the money 
spent, roughly 80% of was spent domestically in the USA.

FYI, an exact value is hard to pin down because its been complicated by 
DoD accounting slights-of-hand.  For example, M113s sent were claimed as 
their original book value (purchase cost) of ~$600,000 each, despite how 
they were being diverted from a demil (scrap) program where the DoD was 
selling them for $1 (yes, one dollar) each.  This inflates the claimed 
value of the military aid being sent.

> This could indeed be WWIII.  


All sorts of things *could* be.  The biggest problem with the USA not 
holding up to its 1993 & 2014 treaty obligations is that it can only 
embolden other world stage actors such as Iran, NC & China.  We've 
already seen this is the Suez Canal, Taiwan, Philippines and literally 
last week, a new provocation between Australia & New Zealand.

> Ukraine would be the beginning and it already has been - let's
> get off that track.  With DJT as president, and me working with him
> and Sec. Rubio, Sen. Graham and anyone who has the status, Putin will
> finally lay off.

Wish it were so, but there's been zero saber-rattling to motivate Putin 
to change course.  The only thing which has happened so far this weekend 
is that Putin's Hungarian puppet Orban has spoken up on how important it 
is for Ukraine to knuckle under & sue for "peace".  Recall that Neville 
Chamberlain's "Peace in Our Time" success lasted for just 335 days: from 
30 Sept 1938 until 31 August 1939.  We've seen this playbook before.


-hh