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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: The actual code of HHH
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:31:58 -0600
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On 3/1/2025 7:14 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 3/1/25 5:02 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/1/2025 2:10 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-01 01:16:41 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 2/28/2025 3:16 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-27 15:29:31 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it is correct to report that HHH is unable to correctly 
>>>>>>> simulate this halting program up to its end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words you are totally clueless that infinite
>>>>>> recursion HAS NO END.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean that having no end enables the simulation to the end?
>>>>
>>>> see my new post
>>>> DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly terminate normally --- x86 code
>>>
>>> In that post:
>>>
>>>> DD()
>>>> [00002133] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002134] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002136] 51         push ecx      ; make space for local
>>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD
>>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD)
>>>> [00002141] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>>> [00002144] 8945fc     mov [ebp-04],eax
>>>> [00002147] 837dfc00   cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
>>>> [0000214b] 7402       jz 0000214f
>>>> [0000214d] ebfe       jmp 0000214d
>>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc     mov eax,[ebp-04]
>>>> [00002152] 8be5       mov esp,ebp
>>>> [00002154] 5d         pop ebp
>>>> [00002155] c3         ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155]
>>>>
>>>> When we hypothesize that the code at machine address
>>>> 0000213c is an x86 emulator then we know that DD
>>>> remains stuck in recursive emulation and cannot possibly
>>>> reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally.
>>>>
>>>> When we add the additional complexity that HHH also
>>>> aborts this sequence at some point then every level
>>>> of recursive emulation immediately stops. This does
>>>> not enable any DD to ever reach its "ret" instruction.
>>>
>>> The question remains unanswered. If the author cannot tell what he
>>> means we may assume that he didn't mean anything.
>>>
>>
>> Your question applied to my ambiguous verbiage.
>> I cancel that ambiguous verbiage and say that
>> DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its
>> own "ret" instruction.
>>
>>
> 
> Which is just a strawman, proving that you are just a fraud.

I don't have time left to talk in circles

DD emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its
own "ret" instruction.

Anything else STFU about it.

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