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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: 77 Mollusk genomes Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 11:11:29 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <vq23g2$s476$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="24811"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:UVKG3et9NVCYLvlRcpuwj7Uzf2Q= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 4783722978C; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 12:11:43 -0500 (EST) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFD4D229783 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 12:11:40 -0500 (EST) by pi-dach.dorfdsl.de (8.18.1/8.18.1/Debian-6~bpo12+1) with ESMTPS id 522HBXkn1977535 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 2 Mar 2025 18:11:33 +0100 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CFADB60611 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 2 Mar 2025 17:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/CFADB60611; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 9EE71DC01CA; Sun, 2 Mar 2025 18:11:31 +0100 (CET) X-Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 18:11:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Language: en-US X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+g0+uHrmf4sByCopLxQnZWXg9K8zOz7EI= DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3326 https://phys.org/news/2025-02-mollusk-family-tree-evolutionary.html https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.ads0215 Mollusca has over 100,000 species with more to be discovered according to the Phys.org article. Their brain development rivals that of vertebrates. My guess is that octopus are smarter than your dog or cat. Their brains are a lot smaller and more efficient than ours and evolved in a cold blooded organism. Their phylogenetic analysis indicates that mollusca separated from annelids (segmented worms) before or around the start of the Cambrian explosion over 550 million years ago. Snails and Nautiloids diverged around 511 million years ago and squid and Octopus diverged after the Permian extinction 250 million years ago. They have the separation at around 214 million years ago. Ron Okimoto