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Subject: Re: California Moves to Severely Limit the Right of Self-Defense
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 12:34:33 -0500
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On 3/2/2025 1:57 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> California bill introduced to change the definition of homicide to make it
> even harder to assert a valid claim of self-defense.
> 
> 
> https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1333
> 
> After armed residents in the Palisades and Altadena were forced (due to the
> absence of police patrols) to defend themselves and their homes from hordes of
> looters after the fires, our feckless leaders in Sacramento are apparently
> very concerned that criminals might get hurt or killed while committing their
> crime, so they've introduced AB 1333 to change the official definition of
> homicide to to limit the circumstances where self-defense would apply.
> 
> It's amazing that after what Los Angeles went through with those fires, with
> the appalling failure and incompetency of government at all levels, that the
> first response of the state legislature is to say, "Gee, maybe we should make
> it safer for the looters to ransack people's homes in a disaster area. We'd
> hate to see any of them get hurt while doing their looting."
> 
> Among other things, if this becomes law, you will only be able to use the same
> level of force as your attacker. So if someone attacks you with a bat or a
> knife and you shoot them, you’re a murderer.

I'd expect a knife (and maybe a bat) to be judged a lethal level of 
force.  Shouted obscenities from your front lawn, not so much.