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From: suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: Ukraine WH-meeting news coverage
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 09:35:54 -0800
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On 3/2/2025 8:34 AM, shawn wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 07:59:32 -0800, suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting
>>>>>> as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC.  Fox, meanwhile, places it
>>>>>> fourth, with the headline:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED
>>>>>> TRUMP EXCHANGE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take
>>>>> exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it?
>>>>> You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both
>>>>> contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett
>>>>> Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at
>>>>> how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing
>>>>> that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is
>>>>> going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in
>>>>> case....
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes]
>>>>
>>>> I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a
>>>> relatively normal interview.  That exception was that Baier opened with
>>>> -- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*.
>>>> I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above)
>>>> leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He does owe Trump an apology.  He was rude, ungracious, and
>>> unthankful.  It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's
>>> giving you a ton of money.
>>>
>> Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in
>> and double down on it. They both provoked Zelenskyy, and you expect him
>> to be thankful for that?
> 
> Of  course not. Trump planned that attack as an attempt to both
> appease Putin and to possibly see Zelensky give in. Though anyone that
> had been paying attention would have known that such an attempt to
> bully Zelensky would fail.
> 
> Hell, we know it was planned given the press was there. Not the
> typical American press, but yet the Russian press made it in. It may
> have been planned to give Trump a reason to refuse to give the Ukraine
> any further aid. Though given the response from Europe the plan to
> make Ukraine give in to Russia's demands may have failed.
> 
All very likely.