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suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote:

>>>>>A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting
>>>>>as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC. Fox, meanwhile, places it
>>>>>fourth, with the headline:

>>>>>QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED
>>>>>TRUMP EXCHANGE

>>>>>(And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.)

>>>>>Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise...

>>>>It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take
>>>>exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it?
>>>>You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both
>>>>contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line.

>>>>Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett
>>>>Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at
>>>>how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy.

>>>>Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing
>>>>that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is
>>>>going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in
>>>>case....

>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes]

>>>I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a
>>>relatively normal interview.  That exception was that Baier opened with
>>>-- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*.
>>>I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above)
>>>leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs.
 
>>He does owe Trump an apology.  He was rude, ungracious, and
>>unthankful.  It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's
>>giving you a ton of money.

>Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in 
>and double down on it. They both provoked Zelienskyy, and you expect him 
>to be thankful for that?

Trump despises Zelenskyy. Events that were precursor to Trump's first
impeachment, Trump demanded that Ukraine trump up evidence versus Biden
that Biden was somehow complicit with the corrupt Ukraine oligarchs,
instead of trying to twist a corrupt Ukrainian administration into
prosecuting corrupt oligarchs as a condition of receiving American aid.
This was while Biden was Obama's vice president

At the time, Trump was supporting the Russian line on Ukraine and needed
something to use against Biden in the 2020 election. Trump didn't care
that it would have been almost entirely fictional.

I was noticing that certain American newspapers are using the Russian
transliteration "-sky" instead of the Ukrainian "-skyy", a bit ironic
given centuries of Ukrainian objection to having had their language
suppressed as part of incorporation into Catherine the Great's empire
and as a Soviet republic.

Hell, I saw this in C-SPAN's graphics as well, a news organization that
is supposed to be entirely neutral.