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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Failure to meet this challenge proves that all of my reviewers are wrong Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 19:38:40 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vq28jf$sj4k$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq1qnr$q7t4$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 19:38:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2c4e3ccf99657293cc6a8efcc8948d8f"; logging-data="937108"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+OqVDWaDYWhStbifjb/9yU" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:oPQBwNanXFS3Eg6nseVnSe/B9jU= Content-Language: nl, en-GB In-Reply-To: <vq1qnr$q7t4$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3123 Op 02.mrt.2025 om 15:42 schreef olcott: > HHH is an emulating termination analyzer that emulates > the x86 machine code located at the address of a function > using a fully functional x86 emulator. > > When HHH recognizes a non-terminating pattern in the > execution trace of its emulated input it aborts this > emulation and returns 0. > > typedef void (*ptr)(); > int HHH(ptr P); > > int DD() > { > int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); > if (Halt_Status) > HERE: goto HERE; > return Halt_Status; > } > > _DD() > [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local > [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD > [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) > [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax > [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 > [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f > [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d > [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] > [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp > [00002154] 5d pop ebp > [00002155] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] > > I challenged everyone here to provide the machine address > by machine address (AKA line by line) execution trace > of DD correctly emulated by HHH that reaches its own > "ret" instruction. Olcott could as well challenge everyone to draw a correct square circle. > > No one made any attempt to do this because they know that > this would prove that they are stupidly wrong to say that > my trace is incorrect. > No one will attempt to draw a square circle. Does that imply that it is wrong to say that another failed attempt to draw a square circle is incorrect? Similarly, HHH cannot possibly simulate itself correctly. Olcott's HHH is incorrect, but a correct HHH that simulates itself does not exist. Therefore, it is very stupid to challenge everyone to correct HHH.