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From: moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
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Subject: Re: OT: Ukraine WH-meeting news coverage
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 15:18:23 -0500
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On 3/2/2025 1:17 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> suzeeq <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:
>> On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
> 
>>>>>> A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting
>>>>>> as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC. Fox, meanwhile, places it
>>>>>> fourth, with the headline:
> 
>>>>>> QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED
>>>>>> TRUMP EXCHANGE
> 
>>>>>> (And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.)
> 
>>>>>> Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise...
> 
>>>>> It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take
>>>>> exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it?
>>>>> You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both
>>>>> contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line.
> 
>>>>> Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett
>>>>> Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at
>>>>> how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy.
> 
>>>>> Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing
>>>>> that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is
>>>>> going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in
>>>>> case....
> 
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes]
> 
>>>> I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a
>>>> relatively normal interview.  That exception was that Baier opened with
>>>> -- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*.
>>>> I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above)
>>>> leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs.
>   
>>> He does owe Trump an apology.  He was rude, ungracious, and
>>> unthankful.  It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's
>>> giving you a ton of money.
> 
>> Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in
>> and double down on it. They both provoked Zelienskyy, and you expect him
>> to be thankful for that?
> 
> Trump despises Zelenskyy. Events that were precursor to Trump's first
> impeachment, Trump demanded that Ukraine trump up evidence versus Biden
> that Biden was somehow complicit with the corrupt Ukraine oligarchs,
> instead of trying to twist a corrupt Ukrainian administration into
> prosecuting corrupt oligarchs as a condition of receiving American aid.
> This was while Biden was Obama's vice president
> 
> At the time, Trump was supporting the Russian line on Ukraine and needed
> something to use against Biden in the 2020 election. Trump didn't care
> that it would have been almost entirely fictional.
> 
> I was noticing that certain American newspapers are using the Russian
> transliteration "-sky" instead of the Ukrainian "-skyy", a bit ironic
> given centuries of Ukrainian objection to having had their language
> suppressed as part of incorporation into Catherine the Great's empire
> and as a Soviet republic.
> 
> Hell, I saw this in C-SPAN's graphics as well, a news organization that
> is supposed to be entirely neutral.

Interestingly, Fox News is the website adhering to the Ukrainian "skyy".