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Path: ...!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: evolution of bytes, The joy of FORTRAN Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <vq2fc1$6db$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <vpl91g$25q46$1@dont-email.me> <175819294.762482901.217276.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vptp2b$1huf$1@gal.iecc.com> <vq1d59$o8fu$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:34:09 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="6571"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <vpl91g$25q46$1@dont-email.me> <175819294.762482901.217276.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <vptp2b$1huf$1@gal.iecc.com> <vq1d59$o8fu$1@dont-email.me> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) Bytes: 2019 Lines: 20 According to Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org>: >On 2/28/25 5:48 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> Oh sure but I am fairly sure that the 360 was the first machine that >> was both character and word addressable with the words at power-of-two >> addresses, and a design that allowed word operationw to work as a unit >> rather than serially by character. > >7030 (Stretch) which also used the term "byte" (page 39 of "Planning a >Computer System") Sure, but its addressing was by 64-bit wurd, with elaborate address modes to handle bitfields at arbitrary boundaries. S/360 brought us the addressable 8 bit byte packaged into 16 bit halfwords and 32 bit words, using the same addressing for each. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly