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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
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Subject: Re: What Made My Day Today :-)
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On 3/2/25 13:48, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 3/1/25 19:11, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>>>
>>>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
>>>
>>> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>> a chance to solve this.
>>
>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>
>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
> 
> 
> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
> as it may not seem.

No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've 
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to 
Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give 
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace 
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.


-hh