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From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: What Made My Day Today :-)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 15:04:37 -0800
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On 3/2/2025 1:41 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 3/2/25 16:14, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>>
>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>
>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>>
>>
>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>> you're implying with that logic.
> 
> No, not saying that I "want" that.  I'm merely noting that when you're 
> doomed to die anyway, nuking the other SOB takes them down with you.
> 
> If that starts a larger exchange (or not) is no longer relevant to you 
> because you're already dead:  its the principle of MAD as a deterrent, 
> and my observation is that MAD only works when both sides have nukes.

Not if one side is bat shit crazy and extraordinarily pissed off? Give 
nukes to the hard core religious nut bars, and shit happens?


> So if you really want peace, solution is give Ukraine back their nukes.

Putin could say who fucking cares. If Ukraine nukes us, we nuke the 
world, full release.