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Subject: Re: OT: Ukraine WH-meeting news coverage
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On 3/2/2025 3:06 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> super70s  <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-03-02 15:59:32 +0000, suzeeq said:
>>
>>> On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting
>>>>>>> as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC.  Fox, meanwhile, places it
>>>>>>> fourth, with the headline:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED
>>>>>>> TRUMP EXCHANGE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take
>>>>>> exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it?
>>>>>> You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both
>>>>>> contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett
>>>>>> Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at
>>>>>> how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing
>>>>>> that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is
>>>>>> going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in
>>>>>> case....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes]
>>>>>
>>>>> I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a
>>>>> relatively normal interview.  That exception was that Baier opened with
>>>>> -- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*.
>>>>> I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above)
>>>>> leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He does owe Trump an apology.  He was rude, ungracious, and
>>>> unthankful.  It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's
>>>> giving you a ton of money.
>>>>
>>> Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in
>>> and double down on it. They both provoked Zelienskyy, and you expect
>>> him to be thankful for that?
>>
>> Vance thinks he's the heir to the MAGA throne. He's running for
>> president and assumes all these draconian Trump policies are going to
>> be popular after they've had four years to ripen on the vine, I
>> wouldn't bet on it. He gave the same kind of blustery "campaign speech"
>> in Germany last week.
> 
> No different than DeSantis running for the nomination in 2024. We have
> learned that a Republican who isn't Trump will not be taken seriously by
> Republican primary voters by running as an imitation Trump.
> 
> The only one Vance convinced was Trump himself, since he turned 180
> degrees from condemning Trump to praising Trump.
> 
> There is no Republican Party without Trump. Trump has no annointed
> successor. I guess they'll all have to run... as themselves... in the
> 2028 presidential primary season.
> 
Let's hope so.