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On Mar 2, 2025 at 3:39:20 PM PST, "suzeeq" <suzeeq@imbris.com> wrote:

> On 3/2/2025 3:06 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>  super70s  <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>  On 2025-03-02 15:59:32 +0000, suzeeq said:
>>> 
>>>>  On 3/2/2025 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>  On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 22:55:00 -0500, moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On 3/1/2025 8:47 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>>>>  On 2025-03-01 5:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  A quick glance at major TV news websites puts the Zelensky WH meeting
>>>>>>>>  as the top story at ABC, CBS, and NBC.  Fox, meanwhile, places it
>>>>>>>>  fourth, with the headline:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>       QUESTIONS SWIRL AROUND POSSIBLE ZELENSKYY RESIGNATION AFTER HEATED
>>>>>>>>  TRUMP EXCHANGE
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  (And Fox's next story gives Brett Favre's opinion on the WH debacle.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  Even now, this sort of schism still takes me by surprise...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  It really distresses you when the major media outlets don't all take
>>>>>>>  exactly the same "correct" line on the issues of the day, doesn't it?
>>>>>>>  You would have LOVED the Soviet Union back in the day or both
>>>>>>>  contemporary Russia and China: all the "news" outlets take the same line.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Just to REALLY undermine your sense of order, you should watch Brett
>>>>>>>  Baier's interview with Zelenskyy on Fox. You will be VERY surprised at
>>>>>>>  how he DOESN'T pile on to Zelenskyy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Then again, you'd need to "invest" some time and I know you hate doing
>>>>>>>  that - unless of course you know in advance that a recommended video is
>>>>>>>  going to take the "progressive" line. But here it is anyway, just in
>>>>>>>  case....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfqLcBwUT_E [23 minutes]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  I watched the first half ...which, with one big exception, seemed a
>>>>>>  relatively normal interview.  That exception was that Baier opened with
>>>>>>  -- and *pursued* -- a suggestion that Zelensky owed Trump an *apology*.
>>>>>>  I found that a true WTF moment ...similar to how Fox's website (above)
>>>>>>  leads with a question about Zelensky's *resignation*, ffs.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  He does owe Trump an apology.  He was rude, ungracious, and
>>>>>  unthankful.  It's never a good idea to try to lecture the person who's
>>>>>  giving you a ton of money.
>>>>> 
>>>>  Trump was even more rude and downright bullied him. Then JD jumped in
>>>>  and double down on it. They both provoked Zelienskyy, and you expect
>>>>  him to be thankful for that?
>>> 
>>>  Vance thinks he's the heir to the MAGA throne. He's running for
>>>  president and assumes all these draconian Trump policies are going to
>>>  be popular after they've had four years to ripen on the vine, I
>>>  wouldn't bet on it. He gave the same kind of blustery "campaign speech"
>>>  in Germany last week.
>>  
>>  No different than DeSantis running for the nomination in 2024. We have
>>  learned that a Republican who isn't Trump will not be taken seriously by
>>  Republican primary voters by running as an imitation Trump.
>>  
>>  The only one Vance convinced was Trump himself, since he turned 180
>>  degrees from condemning Trump to praising Trump.
>>  
>>  There is no Republican Party without Trump. Trump has no annointed
>>  successor. I guess they'll all have to run... as themselves... in the
>>  2028 presidential primary season.
>>  
> Let's hope so.

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