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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Kicking the straw-man deception out on its ass Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 20:22:18 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <vq33oq$11qv8$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq2i40$ug75$3@dont-email.me> <aff6ceb585b4f024c238d901362389163051aac8@i2pn2.org> <vq2jpi$ug75$4@dont-email.me> <a5881effb7ea9a41f6e94ad6262ccd48d9e09cf3@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 03:22:19 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0c603a0e41e8bbe90f18e13a3b679ac3"; logging-data="1108968"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+gPuozlNcGv3pc80zCue0" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DxLjMRZvDbeKvyaOQx9gwQt/e8Q= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a5881effb7ea9a41f6e94ad6262ccd48d9e09cf3@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250302-6, 3/2/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3357 On 3/2/2025 6:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 3/2/25 4:49 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 3/2/2025 3:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 3/2/25 4:21 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> int DD() >>>> { >>>> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>>> if (Halt_Status) >>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>> return Halt_Status; >>>> } >>>> >>>> _DD() >>>> [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local >>>> [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD >>>> [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) >>>> [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax >>>> [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 >>>> [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f >>>> [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d >>>> [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] >>>> [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp >>>> [00002154] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002155] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] >>>> >>>> DD emulated by HHH according to the behavior that DD >>>> specifies cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction >>>> and terminate normally. >>> >>> WHich only shows that HHH can not correctly emulate its input and >>> give an answer. >>> >> >> The fact that HHH does correctly determine that DD >> emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own "ret" >> instruction and terminate normally proves that your >> claim is counter factual. > > You say that, but it isn't true, You keep trying to get away with saying that the fact that DD calls its own emulator in recursive emulation does not change the behavior from the behavior of the directly executed DD. AT THIS POINT THAT BECOMES VERY STUPIDLY WRONG. SINCE WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE NOT THAT STUPID WHAT ELSE IS LEFT? -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer