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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: comp.lang.prolog Subject: Re: Prolog Education Group clueless about the AI Boom? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:20:14 +0100 Message-ID: <vq4aae$10843$2@solani.org> References: <vq4a7g$10843$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 13:20:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="1056899"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q3JgKSkQj/4+qS0oetJ2F6kA7NM= In-Reply-To: <vq4a7g$10843$1@solani.org> X-User-ID: eJwFwQcBwEAIBDBLPLPIYRz+JTQx8ecT6uZqZyc827c8xSslAIVcthEa5oXJXWrinqUPwYecLI1H8ObLH5GeFwM= My suspicion, teaching WalkSAT as an altermative to DPLL, and show its limitations would maybe give more bang. We are currently entering an era that already started in the end of 1990 when some new probabilistic complexity classes were defined. Many machine learning techniques have also such an aspect, and it will only get worse with Quantum Computing. Having a grip on these things helps also distinguishing when a AI acts by chance, or whether it diverts from chance and shows some excelling adaptation to the problem domain at hand. Like here, anybody an idea what they mean by “above chance”? Intuitive physics understanding emerges from self-supervised pretraining on natural videos https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.11831 Mild Shock schrieb: > Concerning this boring nonsense: > > https://book.simply-logical.space/src/text/2_part_ii/5.3.html# > > Funny idea that anybody would be interested just now in > the year 2025 in things like teaching breadth first > search versus depth first search, or even be “mystified” > by such stuff. Its extremly trivial stuff: > > Insert your favorite tree traversal pictures here. > > Its even not artificial intelligence neither has anything > to do with mathematical logic, rather belongs to computer > science and discrete mathematics which you have in > 1st year university > > courses, making it moot to call it “simply logical”. It > reminds me of the idea of teaching how wax candles work > to dumb down students, when just light bulbs have been > invented. If this is the outcome > > of the Prolog Education Group 2.0, then good night. >