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From: D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com>
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Subject: Re: The Lisa
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 08:40:33 -0600
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On 2/28/25 3:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On 28 Feb 2025 09:49:01 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
> 
>> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote or quoted:
>>>
>>> Me: So, how Hdo you program it?
>>
>> IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:
>> You buy a Lisa.
> 
> The original 128K Mac was simply too resource-starved to self-host any
> useful development environment.

That's not correct.

> 
> Except ... Forth. I think there was a Forth-based product called “Neon”
> that actually let you write programs on a 128K Mac, to run on a 128K Mac.
> 

That's not correct.

Bill Duvall's 68000 Development System ran on a Mac 128K. So did his C 
compiler. So did several other C compilers.

So did the Mainstay MacASM compiler (which was the first native 
assembler released for Mac 128K in 1984). So did Creative Solutions' 
MacFORTH.

Here are some articles that you can read to learn more about software 
development on the Mac 128K:

https://macgui.com/news/showcat.php?id=8&tag=5

C On the Macintosh: Historical Overview
https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=537

MacASM Macro Assembler by Mainstay
https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=458