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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Kicking the straw-man deception out on its ass Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:44:45 +0200 Organization: - Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vq4f8t$1bmtr$1@dont-email.me> References: <vq2i40$ug75$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2025 15:44:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3840d9387e7d4d3966298ccfd1bdcbe2"; logging-data="1432507"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18PUuLuZ70AJXBzeRzH4KGX" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:l6kkftOIPH84eRt+K8CeybM5bBw= Bytes: 2120 On 2025-03-02 21:21:04 +0000, olcott said: > int DD() > { > int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); > if (Halt_Status) > HERE: goto HERE; > return Halt_Status; > } > > _DD() > [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local > [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD > [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) > [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax > [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 > [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f > [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d > [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] > [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp > [00002154] 5d pop ebp > [00002155] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] > > DD emulated by HHH according to the behavior that DD > specifies cannot possibly reach its own "ret" instruction > and terminate normally. DD does not fully specify a behaviour. The behaviour depends on HHH, which is not a part of DD. If HHH returns 0 then DD specifies a non- terminatingg behaviour but that is a big if. -- Mikko