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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Far less than no rebuttal at all Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:08:26 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 84 Message-ID: <vq6fua$1ptg9$1@dont-email.me> References: <vptlfu$3st19$9@dont-email.me> <vpug3h$50td$1@dont-email.me> <vq06al$eljf$1@dont-email.me> <vq06ja$dfve$2@dont-email.me> <vq075c$eljf$3@dont-email.me> <vq08gi$f06n$1@dont-email.me> <vq0b4u$f3k3$4@dont-email.me> <vq0crn$fhth$2@dont-email.me> <vq0dl2$f3k3$10@dont-email.me> <3hg7sjhnq962dnkue9cg8ftccfbsf7rpfd@4ax.com> <fbc1c3d5507d1d175bdadbbfde51c10bdda1b437@i2pn2.org> <vq19ae$nkcf$1@dont-email.me> <vq1pbq$q7t4$1@dont-email.me> <31a0412e2970684ae378d18a273cc8e0edf4824a@i2pn2.org> <vq35tr$11qv8$2@dont-email.me> <23aa0cb632251e2f996771c596259861d785c8ef@i2pn2.org> <vq3bja$16jdc$3@dont-email.me> <de6fdbb0cfed3c13c4b161d81f0cd3ec4b598b27@i2pn2.org> <vq4p0v$1di94$1@dont-email.me> <vq516u$1er5l$2@dont-email.me> <vq5c0a$1gu61$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:08:27 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d7c6140e742b44fca545d1093be5c1e"; logging-data="1897993"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX196Yot9cUFTMQhoKwhttA5s" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:K+FzyqGzncgOITLgOjAG3cuKaWc= Content-Language: nl, en-GB In-Reply-To: <vq5c0a$1gu61$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 5161 Op 03.mrt.2025 om 23:55 schreef olcott: > On 3/3/2025 1:50 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 03.mrt.2025 om 18:31 schreef olcott: >>> On 3/3/2025 6:26 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 3/2/25 11:35 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 3/2/2025 9:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 3/2/25 9:59 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/2/2025 6:42 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/2/25 9:18 AM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/2/2025 3:44 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-02 07:45:26 +0000, joes said: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Am Sun, 02 Mar 2025 02:28:14 +0000 schrieb Mr Flibble: >>>>>>>>>>>> Stop stealing my idea: it is Copyright 2022 Mr Flibble. >>>>>>>>>>> May I note that useless or wrong ideas are not patentable. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No patent was claimed, only copyright. But copyright does not >>>>>>>>>> protect ideas, >>>>>>>>>> only particular presentations of those ideas, to some extent. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example the term "simulating halt decider" and >>>>>>>>> "simulating termination analyzer" have been copyrighted >>>>>>>>> by me for many years. I do this to establish academic >>>>>>>>> credit for these underlying ideas. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't be, You can't "Copyright" words, only creative works. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your papers on the topic can be, but not the terms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terms can be protected under "Trademark", but that has a cost to >>>>>>>> register, and also you have to show a comercial purpose, and >>>>>>>> can't be just an ordinary term of art that describes your thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, if you paid a lawyer to actually copyright the terms, you >>>>>>>> wasted money and got had. Just like if some lawyer suggested >>>>>>>> that you could get a copyright on such a term. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That every reference to the term "simulating halt decider" >>>>>>> in a Google search pulls up pages and pages of me establishes >>>>>>> that I am the creator of the notion of a "simulating halt decider" >>>>>> >>>>>> Nope, just that you don;t understand what you are talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> That it is in the literature from over half a century ago just >>>>>> proves you didn't create the idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may have created that exact name, but not the concept. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note, you didn't say anything about how you are LYING about having >>>>>> a "Copyright" on that name/concept, maybe because you realize you >>>>>> don't know what you are talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> that correctly determines that DD correctly emulated by HHH >>>>>>> cannot possibly reach its own "return" instruction and >>>>>>> terminate normally. >>>>>> >>>>>> Excpet that is a lying strawman, proving you are just a stupid fraud. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maybe you are simply a troll that has never understood >>>>> any of these technical details. I can't remember any >>>>> technical analysis that you ever did that was technically >>>>> correct. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Really? What of my analysis is actually incorrect? >>>> >>> >>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c >>> The above code proves that: >>> (a) HHH correctly emulates itself emulating DD. >> >> No, HHH aborts, so a correct simulation of itself would see that abort. >> > > Counter-factual and beyond your technical competence. > No facts presented. No rebuttal. No logic competence.