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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: A quick search on _noticeable_ Linux improvements since 2014 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 09:11:55 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vq6g4r$1q2c4$2@dont-email.me> References: <Bu0xP.13460$J3s7.12391@fx05.iad> <slrnvs99ni.2sl.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <m2k0i8FoojoU2@mid.individual.net> <slrnvs9noc.7l8.Adison@localhost.localdomain> <3m8xP.80152$2zn8.62115@fx15.iad> <vq3jvo$17s52$1@dont-email.me> <6vixP.60074$Xq5f.22220@fx38.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:11:56 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bf9a3e9aa5e7b3ef5db202222e4016a2"; logging-data="1902980"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+3FKoRnorClzpLr7QpGKW5" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bXCWnstR4GSXMDGpOJzNcPQyguU= Bytes: 3279 On 2025-03-03, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 2025-03-03 1:59 a.m., RonB wrote: >> On 2025-03-03, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> On 2025-03-02 5:43 p.m., Adison Vohn Caterson wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-02, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 18:44:02 -0000 (UTC), Adison Vohn Caterson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With openSUSE today, versus 5 years ago when I last tried it, I don't >>>>>> notice any difference. Using KDE. There's a Discover Software Center >>>>>> now. >>>>> >>>>> I'm running the Fedora KDE spin and it has Discover. I very seldom use it >>>>> running dnf or flatpak updates from Konsole. There is a updates available >>>>> icon on the toolbar that I don't look at very often, just assuming there >>>>> will be updates. dnf is a symlink to dnf5. >>>>> >>>>> Discover always seemed to take longer to come up and get the job done. >>>> >>>> I prefer also using Konsole zypper up,in commands... faster than YaST or >>>> PackageKit applet(update icon). >>>> >>>> I use Discover to see what's out there. >>> >>> Is what's out there any different than what was out there ten years ago? >> >> For what I do, Linux was good in 2014. I'm sure there's improvements but >> nothing that really caught my attention in the last 10 years. > > The argument here should be that Linux doesn't _need_ to make obvious > changes to the user experience because it has already reached a point > where it satisfies current and new users. That would be a very good > explanation as to why the big changes are under the hood. I think UI customizations are (for the most part) more important to new Linux users who are experimenting. For someone like me, I just want the UI to look and work pretty much the way it did the last release or three releases earlier. (Small changes don't take too long to get used to. I may be in the minority here, I don't know. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien