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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:14:29 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <vq6g9l$1ptg9$2@dont-email.me> References: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:14:30 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0d7c6140e742b44fca545d1093be5c1e"; logging-data="1897993"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19UeMZVqi+rtxno1MMhT2Fp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:2LpuDiHUGddsxuHKONZ5n6iNVZM= Content-Language: nl, en-GB In-Reply-To: <vq5qqc$1j128$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2637 Op 04.mrt.2025 om 04:07 schreef olcott: > int DD() > { > int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); > if (Halt_Status) > HERE: goto HERE; > return Halt_Status; > } > > _DD() > [00002133] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping > [00002134] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping > [00002136] 51 push ecx ; make space for local > [00002137] 6833210000 push 00002133 ; push DD > [0000213c] e882f4ffff call 000015c3 ; call HHH(DD) > [00002141] 83c404 add esp,+04 > [00002144] 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax > [00002147] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 > [0000214b] 7402 jz 0000214f > [0000214d] ebfe jmp 0000214d > [0000214f] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04] > [00002152] 8be5 mov esp,ebp > [00002154] 5d pop ebp > [00002155] c3 ret > Size in bytes:(0035) [00002155] > > DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly > reach its own "ret" instruction and terminate normally. I wonder why Olcott keeps repeating that HHH fails to reach the 'ret' instruction, where the direct execution or world-class simulators have no problem to reach the 'ret' instruction of exactly the same finite string as input. Is he proud of this failure of his HHH? Why doesn't he change his HHH, e.g. by simulating the call to HHH with a replacement with the return value of HHH, so that he can reach the 'ret' instruction? It is such a simple modification and it will fix at least the problem that the simulation does not reach the 'ret' instruction.