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Subject: Re: Batteries - EV Conversion
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 14:12:20 -0000 (UTC)
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Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
> On 3/4/2025 6:07 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:vq5jm6$1i4or$1@dont-email.me...
>> 
>> On 3/3/2025 5:37 PM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>>> Bob La Londe <none@none.com99> wrote:
>>>> On 3/2/2025 8:02 AM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>>>>> As you observed elsewhere, batteries are a more fundamental problem.
>>>>> At energy/power densities approaching hydrocarbon fuels they take on
>>>>> the character of rocket propellants.
>>>>
>>>> So, hydrogen is the answer, and Elon was wrong?
>>>
>>> Not sure what you're referring to. Can you elaborate?
>>>
>>> bob prohaska
>> 
>> Rocket fuel of course.  You brought it up.
>> 
>> There is an old video clip where somebody asked Musk about hydrogen vs
>> electric, he replied electric no doubt.  I was just trying to find that
>> clip and post it for you, and only found dozens of videos from people
>> claiming Tesla is going to pivot to hydrogen fuel cells.
>> Bob La Londe
>> 
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Alternate energy sources appeal most to those who understand them the 
>> least. The only real solution is individual conservation but that answer 
>> is unacceptable. I'll know the greenies are serious when I see their 
>> laundry drying on clotheslines.
>> 
> 
>   Holy shit , does that mean we're "serious greenies" ? I think the 
> only item we use the dryer for is sheets/bedding , because the pollen 
> bothers my wife . Added bonus is that our clothes last a lot longer .

Well, folks can make good decisions sometimes for incidental reasons 8-)

Jim's fundamentally correct. I'd not call conservation "unacceptable", 
but it surely is uncompetetive in the (very) near term.

I too favor clothslines over dryers, unless it's raining and I'm out
of clean socks. 

bob prohaska