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Subject: Re: Land Acknowledgement at the Oscars
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 10:02:44 -0600
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On 2025-03-04 06:31:08 +0000, BTR1701 said:

> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Oscars last night took time out to have Julianne Hough, a white lady in a
>>> $50,000 ball gown, give one of those insipid "land acknowledgements" to
>>> assuage their white guilt over having built a civilization on what used to be
>>> tribal territory.
>> 
>>> She paid respects to the Tongva tribe, which inhabited the area that is now
>>> Hollywood and lost its land when white people moved in.
>> 
>>> Except the Tongva weren't here first. A previous loose association of natives
>>> called the Hokan lived on this land for thousands of years before the Tongva.
>>> The Tongva conquered them, drove them off, and took this land from them. Just
>>> as hundreds of years later, the European settlers conquered the Tongva, drove
>>> them off, and took this land from them.
>> 
>>> To sum up:
>> 
>>> The Tongva had been here for a long time, but they weren't the first, and they
>>> conquered the land and killed or displaced the Hokan, who were here before
>>> them.
>> 
>>> White people have been here for a long time, but they weren't the first, and
>>> they conquered the land and killed or displaced the Tongva, who were here
>>> before them.
>> 
>>> So by all relevant standards, if the Tongva are indigenous to Southern
>>> California, then so are white people.
>> 
>> What the Tongva did was acceptible as at their self celebratory
>> ceremonies, they too gave a land acknowledgement.
> 
> LOL!
> 
> "And now, before we present the award for best rain dance in a comedy or
> musical, we take a moment to remember the Hokan, who we slaughtered so that
> we could live on this beautiful land."

You can get riled up over some of the most trivial things.

Why not start your own Hokan Appreciation Society if you feel this 
strongly about the issue.