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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Why VAX Was the Ultimate CISC and Not RISC Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 11:46:22 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vq7alc$1ukpf$1@dont-email.me> References: <vpufbv$4qc5$1@dont-email.me> <vq2fmi$udn2$1@dont-email.me> <vq2m1f$19od$1@gal.iecc.com> <vq4jrl$1cguk$1@dont-email.me> <vq5nc0$lob$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 17:44:29 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="97a6badffad19edb6a9de182c0370cde"; logging-data="2052911"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+6liZ1wrQ0Vgj4MinjuQbh" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eC8Qp8bI/GM6ginQVGeqCH2LyBk= In-Reply-To: <vq5nc0$lob$1@gal.iecc.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2113 On 3/3/25 9:09 PM, John Levine wrote: > According to Brian G. Lucas <bagel99@gmail.com>: >>>>> That was not what customers were interested in. There were various >>>>> Unix variants available for the PC, but the customers preferred using >>>>> DOS, which was preinstalled and did not cost extra. ... >>> >>> Yup. PC/IX was a really nice Unix port for the IBM PC and nobody was interested. >>> >> As this (the kernel part) was my project, it was very disappointing. I think >> IBM priced such that with DOS being "free", it had no chance. > > Nobody knew what the market for PC/IX was supposed to be beyond some > handwaving "if 5% if PC users buy it we'll be rich." PC/IX could do > anything a PDP-11 running Unix could do, give or take peripherals, > but the PC market was very different from the PDP-11 market and by > that time the PDP-11 was rather long in the tooth. > Maybe everyting except for lack of memory protection. IBM sold it as a single user system.